Building Your Hospitality Toolbox: Erin Dennis’s Advice for Event Planners and Venue Owners

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Welcome to the Event Pro show, your ultimate guide to the world of corporate

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events. Whether you're a corporate event planner, experiential marketing

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pro, producer, technician, or anyone involved in creating exceptional

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events, this podcast is your go to resource for valuable insights,

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expert tips, and inspiring stories from the industry's leading professionals.

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Well, thank you for joining us on this episode of the Event Pro Show. I

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am your host, Seth Macchi. I'm the CEO, CEO of lemg. We're an event

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production company based in Charlotte, North Carolina. And we

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focus primarily on producing corporate events all over

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the country. And as you know, I like to have guests on the show

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that in some way shape or form touch corporate events. And I'm

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very excited about. Today's guest was one of the. I

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don't know if she remembers this. One of the first people I met when I

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moved to Charlotte. And when I met her, she was winning an award. And

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it seems like every event that I go to, where Erin is, she's winning some

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sort of an award for. For hospitality or something in events.

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And it's. It's pretty awesome. So I feel honored that you're here today. Well,

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thank you. Thanks for having me, yo. Absolutely. And for those of you that don't

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know. Erin. Erin, I'm just gonna just talk through your bio really quick to

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introduce you. Erin is the founder of Evergreen Hospitality

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Solutions, a consulting and coaching company that supports hospitality

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sales and events teams with marketing strategies, team development,

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and professional management. With more than 30 years of experience

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in catering, sales, marketing and leadership, she. What.

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What haven't you done? Is basically what it's saying. She's taught at Central Piedmont

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Community College and mentored countless professionals in the

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industry. A dedicated leader and connector, Erin is also an active member

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of multiple industry associations, including nace, where she

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is a certified professional in catering and events.

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I'd like to welcome to the Event Pro Show, Erin Dennis. Welcome.

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Thank you. Excited to be here? Yes. It's gonna be fun. It will be fun.

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And I. I'm super excited. You are the quintessential

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event professional. So you're the one. You're the prototype

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of the guest here. So thank you. Thank you. And I like to kick off

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with every guest with kind of a baseline question. Okay. Because

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I think it's kind of fun to hear people's. People's thoughts about this. But

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what is the first event that you can remember attending? And I'm looking

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for, like, your earliest memory as. As a kid.

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So I will say that when.

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When I was growing up, we were very active in our local church.

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And my mom was on the planning team for

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a festival that they would have every year at the church. And she was in

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charge of all the booths that had candy and

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sweets and the bake sale area. And that's really

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what I remember the most. I remember helping her

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decorate gingerbread houses to use as decorations at

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the event. I remember walking, going

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with her and walking through the, like, the flow of how things would go.

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And. And then she did that for many, many years. So I just.

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I. That's really my first event that I remember. Yeah.

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Yeah. I think you're not alone in that. I was having some memories

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while you were talking of my own childhood, of my mom doing stuff

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like that, too. Yeah, that's. That's a great memory. Do you think

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that gave you a positive feeling about events? It

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did, it did. I enjoyed being in the booth with

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her and greeting people and trying to talk

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them into or getting certain items from the

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tables. And I would go even to tables that weren't mine

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and my mom's and, you know, and just. I just. You're a natural.

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I was. Yes. Very much the social butterfly and.

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Right. I can't see that. I can see that. So

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in that context, fast forward, when was the first time you can remember wanting

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to be involved with events, like, as a career? I mean, that's a big jump

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from being a kid there, but yes. So I did start

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my career off in the hotel industry working.

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Actually, my first job was as a lifeguard in a hotel. And

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I grew up in Chicago suburbs, so these were hotels out near o' Hare

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Airport. And I

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then worked my way through hotels. But it wasn't until

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I moved here into Charlotte

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in 1992 that I started working

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at a hotel, which actually is no longer in

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existence, but it was the original Hyatt South

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Park. Okay. And I worked in accounting there. And then I

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moved into the role as general manager's assistant.

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Glorified babysitter. Yes. But

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that's when I started to be more in the office and see things.

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What was happening with the salespeople, and they would come to the desk

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and get, you know, keys and be showing around and. And

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then the events would be going on. And as a manager, I was

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required to be at some events, especially the New Year's

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Eve events. And so that's when I was

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like, oh, this looks like a lot more fun and a little bit better schedule.

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So. Right. That's when I decided to start pursuing something

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in the sales and events side of things. Right, right. Once you

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peeled it back a little bit and saw what was happening back there.

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Yeah, absolutely. And you also

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have taught a lot. I think I keep running into

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people that have been taught by you. There's people all over the

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place that have learned from you. So as an educator,

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what have you learned as you've taught the next generation of event

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professionals? I think right now there's, there's

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definitely been an exodus of talent post Covid.

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Right. And so I think it's a really important time to think about that, like

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who's coming in, but what, what are lessons you've learned as you've taught,

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you know, these young professionals. I, I have

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learned that a lot of things,

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especially in the industry, they learn more outside

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of the classroom. It's very important what they learn in the

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classroom. More of your systems and processes you

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learn. I know that a lot of students, I have to teach

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them professionalism. We would have a lot of guest

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speakers and I would take them on field trips, but I would tell them what

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they could wear. Mainly I told them what they couldn't wear

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and what they needed to bring with them and to be

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prepared and required questions that they had to

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ask and things like that. So, you know, I'm learning

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that and I learned because I taught for 18 years at

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CPCC, I'm recently back and teaching

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a new program which I'll share in a little bit. But it's

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the, the, the generation today.

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There's a couple things, especially with COVID that has happened.

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They're not, they're very socially awkward, I guess is the

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best way to put it. Yeah. You know you noticed a difference? Oh,

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absolutely, yes, I've even noticed it.

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Even when they are working, a lot of

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folks start, I think a lot of it has to do with that they were

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learning behind a computer. Yeah, for sure. And learning

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or communicating behind a phone

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and not necessarily learning to have those one on

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one conversations with people. And I think that

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the greatest thing I can do right now is

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teach them how to come out from behind

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those barriers. Right. Don't be afraid to get out from behind.

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But they are, they're terrified. You know, I

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remember even my own children and at the age of 15

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and now they're in their 20s, didn't even want to call and order

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pizza. Yeah. So I think some of that is even before COVID

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but I think it just got worse because they were learning

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online and they were at home and they weren't

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socializing. And so I think it definitely has,

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has definitely hurt them a little bit.

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Yeah, Yeah, I, I could see that too, with my kids going through it

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too. That, that whole period, I had one graduate then going to college during that

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time period. And it is just different. There's been pros and

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cons. I think as a technology person, there's a

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lot of cool stuff that's been adopted, but we're also losing some hard

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skills of like, how to interact. So in that context

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though, what do you think is

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the type of advice that you find yourself giving most often to young

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professionals as they're learning and growing into a career? I

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always recommend that they get connected within some type of an

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association where they can practice those

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skills without it being

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tied to an evaluation of

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their job performance. I know

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for me, I have been a member of nace for 30

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years, and so I started pretty

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very early on. I literally started in my career in

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catering sales in 1995,

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and then later that, that year is when the NACE

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chapter started in Charlotte. So I was able to

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learn how to be a leader, how to communicate,

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networking, how to build

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a group of friends and coworkers and folks

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that I could lean on through that process.

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And so I think that for students,

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if they could get involved with

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anything, any type of organization, it doesn't have to necessarily be

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a hospitality driven, but something that's gonna

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give them that presentation skills,

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communication skills, leadership skills, getting

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involved on the board of whatever that is. Right.

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It's, it's literally, you don't have to pay for that education.

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Right. Right. I think that's incredible. And I, I,

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I'm involved a lot with mpi. Same thing. I've been to

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a lot of NACE meetings too. We, I was just talking with a group of

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planners and, and people that are involved with MPI about kind of

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trying to define what are you getting out of this. And I think

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it does, it does kind of land in. It's not

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necessarily a one for one like so from a vendor perspective, it's not

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like you're going, you get a sale or you know, from a planner perspective, you

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find a vendor or it's not like transactional.

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It's that, that your concept that you're laying out, that

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you're building your network, your group in that community

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and taking it one step further that I didn't see you talking about

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how we're. If, if skills are getting

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dropped off on one end of being able to interact with people, you

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have to kind of work a little harder to do that, to build those

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skills. And what better place than pick a group NACE

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Aah, mp. I mean, there's tons of them. Right. Pick one. A lot

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of times you'll see a lot of crossovers. Same group anyways, if you're in a

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mid market city, you know, but you need that, you need that

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group. And you'll find over the. Sometimes you're working

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for them, sometimes they're working for you, sometimes not at all. But you're

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recommending or they're recommending or. Referring, you know, or you're just helping each other

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study for something or hey, what did you do with this thing? And it's

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literally someone that you can, you know, in the age of

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AI, there's still relationships trump a lot of things.

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Absolutely there is. We will not be

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without those personal relationships ever in our industry.

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Yeah, I agree. It's such a people business. I mean, we get people together.

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Right. So it would make sense that we know how to be around people.

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Exactly. You got to build that skill. You do, you really do. Yes,

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absolutely. That was literally the question I was going to ask. I didn't mean

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to talk about that, but I'm going to move past that because I, I do

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believe in networking in associations,

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but putting some thought around, like what, what is the value

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of that? And that's, that's for me,

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I think one of the things that we had talked about was, you

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know, what has your network done for you? For

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me and my man association and

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I, I have to give it everything. I mean, I

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would not have, would I have grown?

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Sure. But I would have had to work a lot harder. Like I

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had some great recommendations.

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Me, you know, put the work in at an association and recommended me for

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some great jobs. I had some great

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opportunities to do some traveling and seeing

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firsthand what trends are out there because I was able to go to

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nace, national conferences and things like that. But

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I. Literally every job I had teaching at

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CPCC was kind of

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a bizarre thing that happened. But I went and took a meeting

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and event planning class which ended up being the class I taught for 18 years.

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And the teacher, I took it because I came from the hotel

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side and I wanted to learn more about the meeting planning side. So that's

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really was for me it was self education. Yeah. And I

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walked in the first night and the instructor is one of my

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clients who's in meeting planning. Oh, cool. Cool. And so, you

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know, that I knew through nace and so it just all came

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together and then, then she asked me at the end if I wanted to take

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over the class. So it just, all

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of those connections have happened through that, through

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association. And I would encourage anybody that has.

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There's times when you go to these meetings and you're like, why am I going?

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I would encourage you to push through because there's these moments like

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that where you're like, oh, yeah, that's why. And it's not

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all the time, but it does. It's like these milestones in your career.

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Right. That it was like, I, I wouldn't have done that without. Without. And gone

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are the days of just handing out business cards and taking business cards and

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tallying those up. Right. Those sales teams that are.

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And leaders that are asking for those.

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Probably not the best fit for the industry at this time.

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changed. Yep. How do you think this

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idea, you know, you, you teaching for 18 years, you're doing it again.

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So there's definitely a mentorship relationship that you develop. How do you

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think sharing your knowledge has changed the way you approach your own work? Because,

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you know, you're, you're teaching and obviously a professional teacher, but you're also

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doing professional work over here about what you're teaching. How does it

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change your approach? Yeah, it's. I think that

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it's all about learning the experience through

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experience. And so sometimes

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for me, when I'm teaching, I'm using past

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experience as examples. Yeah. But also

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when I'm working and helping like a venue put

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together their systems and processes for

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booking their event space, let's say. And what does

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their sales team structure look like? I'm always

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encouraging companies to reach out and get

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interns because every single one of the students at

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CPCC who goes through this hospitality program

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is required to do an internship. And so

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I'm always. When I'm. When I'm working, I'm always looking

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for where are some opportunities where students could fill the

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gap of some things that are needed. Right. So that they

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could help with that process, but then also be learning at the same

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time. Time. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, it totally makes sense. And

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you've got my wheels spinning about what we do and what we should be thinking

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about. So. Yeah, that's what happens when you talk to smart people.

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Oh, my gosh. I love it.

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So you have worked in many different areas.

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event side, on the hospitality side, what

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inspired you to finally launch Evergreen Hospitality

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Solutions? You know you're an entrepreneur, right? You're an entrepreneur

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now. That's like the big word. Crazy, right? Yeah. And my husband is, too.

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So now we're a dual family. You're. You're in this thing together. Yeah.

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And. And also second question is, you know, what inspired you to launch it? But

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what gap in the industry are you hoping to fill? Yeah. You know, with this

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company. So, for me, I have always been

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the type of person that believes that it's my

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responsibility to give back

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and to train the future of our industry.

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And I loved opening the new

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hotel in the south park area. It was fantastic experience

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because, again, I was developing and building a new team.

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systems and processes, working between the sales and event

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teams as well as the banquet team at the hotel,

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and then bringing on our different vendors and people that we

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wanted to partner with and things like that. So

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that was really fun to grow that. But about two and a

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half years in, I'm sitting there typing up banquet event orders of

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details with pots of coffee, and I'm like, this is not doing

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anyone else any good. Right. I have so much more

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to give. Yeah. There was a moment. Yeah. It was. I

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remember it very clearly, and I thought, this is not for

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me anymore. Right. You've done this. Right. It's time to move on. Yeah.

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I have. I have, you know, a good few more years and,

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you know, available to me to work your best

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years. Yeah. And I want to be able to do that by inspiring other people

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and training other people to take on these other.

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These responsibilities. So I was like, okay,

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it's time for a change. Yeah. And so I

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launched my company, Evergreen, and

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I have been having a ball. It's been great. It

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seems like it. Yeah. It seems like it's a lot of fun, and I've been

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dabbling in a lot of different things, but I have come to find

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that. And it's interesting. Early on,

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when I was talking about making this change, to a few people that knew about

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it before I shared it with my employer and anyone else

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were some event planners, corporate and social.

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And they said, aaron, these venues, they need your

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help. They don't have any systems in

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place. They don't have processes for

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certain parameters of what decor can come in, what

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can't. What are the hours of setup? What are the.

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They don't really know what to do. And

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so I was like, okay, well, that's interesting. I hadn't really thought of that.

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My thought my path would be more in the hotels, but what

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I'm finding is hotels a lot of times think that they can

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just do it themselves. Yeah. So. But the

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venues, independent venues, a lot of them

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are commercial real estate investors.

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They don't have the hospitality experience. Right.

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And so it's really been a great partnership for me to

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go in with these folks that own these locations and

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want to run successful, you know,

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venues and partner with some really good people. And for me to be able to

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bring everybody together to do that, so. To make it a win for

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everybody, I could totally see that they're trying to maximize their

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investment, but they have no experience. Like, they find themselves

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new owners of a wonderful venue that. How do you do this? And it looks

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really easy when you attend venues. Right. You know, at some event or something.

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And I got to peek behind the curtain on a project you were working on,

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which I won't talk about, but it was so well done. Like, it was just

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such a great experience to come and be a part of that.

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So I think you're doing a great job. From my little view that I got

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to see, I'm like, oh, this is really cool. Very cool. I love it.

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So as far as you're now talking about

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helping restructure and manage hospitality teams, how do you approach restructuring

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hospitality teams differently than other consultants might? So

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what. Maybe this. This might be better. What sets you apart

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in this world of there are consultants out there, but you bring

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something unique, which is you. Yes. So what do you

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bring that you feel is different and how you approach venues or

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maybe hotels? I kind of lean on that a

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little bit. You know, my experience, my reputation.

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But my mother always taught me that

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you get the best out of people when you ask for

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help or when you help others. Yeah,

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it sounds simple, but that's pretty powerful. It's very, very, very

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powerful. And I look at

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this as you need some help. You may or may

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not know that you need help, or you don't know what help you need,

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but let's sit down and have a conversation. So I'm also

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not the type that's going to go in and say, well, you have to do

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it this way, this way, this way, this way. Because that

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system doesn't work for everyone. So I listen.

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That's really. I think one of the keys for what

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I do is, number one, I'm here to help you and figure out

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what path you need to go on. And then also I listen

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to what are some of your struggles or what are your goals.

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And. And then we come together and kind of put some

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ideas together. So if I'm hearing you correctly,

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you listen. I do. And then you

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don't. You have a Toolbox over here called your

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experience. Right. And you plug in what you feel they need. It's not

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like you come in with already assuming, like, I got. Don't worry. I don't even

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need to hear anything. I know what you guys need. It's just like a customer

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solution for every client. Yeah, custom's great. And also, it's not even

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just my experience, but it's the experience of

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the meeting and event planners that I have worked with in the past and what

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their expectations have been. I, you know, I

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am not an event planner. I don't want to be an event

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planner. But I have worked with quite a few,

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and so I understand how different the needs

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are of corporate versus social can be.

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And the pressures are a little different, too. For sure. You know, the

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corporate side, it's a little more cut and dry. Most of the time,

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the budget is already set, and they understand

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their budget. They know what that looks like. They have a little bit better

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plan. Whereas on the social side, a lot of times they don't. They

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think they have a budget, but then, you know, the planners

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kind of nicely tell them that their budget's too. Low and they find out what

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things actually cost. Right, Exactly. And they want, you know, this

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grandiose thing, but then they have to kind of bring it back down. But I

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think my experience with working with a lot of planners, I bring that in

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as part of my experience. Okay, well, then, nice segue.

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So if. If you could give one piece of advice to corporate event planners about

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working with AV or hospitality teams. Yeah. What would that be?

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Well, I. I am a true believer in

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that you cannot be the expert of all things.

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And AV for me has. I mean, can I plug

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in a projector and bring a screen in? Yes, I can do

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that. But as far as that, I'm done.

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I. I learned everything I learned, I learned from the professionals in the

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AV world. And so I always

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say, just by bring in the experts, don't try to

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pretend that you know all the things that they need, because

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that could really get you into a tight bond when you're a planner

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of. Well, you said we didn't need, you know, a mixer.

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You know, we have three mics. You didn't. You said we didn't need a mixer.

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Well, Mike's, from what I've always been taught is once you go

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past one, you need a mixer. So I say lean

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on them. That's a pro tip. That's a good one. And

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two. But bring people in as your partners. Yeah.

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You know, as. As an event planner.

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You're not just, it's not just you. It's the AV

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team, it's the decor team, it's the catering team.

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So it, it's your team and you want to look at it

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that way. Yeah. Versus these vendors work for me.

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No, we're going to come together and we're going to make this work. But why

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not lean on the expert side that they are. Yeah. To help you with

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that. Whether that's planning or executing.

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I 100% agree. And thank you for saying it. I, I, I

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there, you know, there is a need for, for writing RFPs,

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but I think there's a lot of pressure on planners to feel

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like they need to know how to write it before they know what it is.

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And, and that seems pretty ridiculous. Right. And so if you can

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build, and it takes a while, but if you can build a team of professionals

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around you in whatever discipline and like your mom

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said, ask for help. Yes. Then you can create stronger

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events. And it is pretty powerful. Sitting around a table with a bunch of

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experts and they just bouncing ideas. Because sometimes,

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you know, the caterer might have a really cool AV

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idea or, you know, the AV company might have a cool food idea

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or something, you know, and like, that kind of a thing, because we're all doing

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it all the time. Time. But at the end, you get a better product. And

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so I, I just want to say, like, just no pressure on writing a great

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rfp. Let's just develop a relationship here. Right. And that speaks

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too, to, like, another reason to get out, talk to people, meet people,

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ask other people who they're using, what their experience has been. You know,

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you need to have these relationships. And that's true. I feel like

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from NACE and other mpi, other, you know,

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you get the perspective of other people. You.

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There's been so many times early on in my, my career

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that we would set up the room,

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set up the buffet, the food and everything, and

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then the AV folks would come in and be like,

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I need room for a stage. Right? Yeah,

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there's a stage on this order. Right. And

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am I looking at the same drawing? Right. Exactly. So again,

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it's, you know, respecting and seeing other people's

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perspective on how to make this event be successful for everyone.

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For the best outcome for everybody. Absolutely. I love it. I

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wish we could talk all day. And I really appreciate you having this

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conversation. We'll have to have you back. Maybe we can have

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you back on an expert panel or something. I love that. But if people want

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to learn more about you or what you're up to. What should they do? Where

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should they go? So I do have a website,

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evergreenhospitalitysolutions.com you can learn a little

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bit about me and my background and what I provide and what I

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do and there's ways to connect with me from there.

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Fantastic. Fantastic. Or come and join me at a NACE meeting.

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Yeah, plug in NACE right here. Right. I'll introduce you to people.

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Join your local NACE branch. I think you should. Yes,

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yes. And. Or mpi, you know, if you want. But. But

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NACE first. Try NACE first. But no, I think

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anything. And you probably will see me at any event. Them. Yeah,

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I see you know, all the things. So there's a

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good chance that you'll find me at one of them. I love it. Well, thank

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you so much for joining us. And thank you for joining us on another

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episode of the Event Pro Show. Every week we put out episodes.

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We have awesome guests like Erin every other week. And then on

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the alternate weeks I'll give tips on AB that might help a

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planner produce a better event. You can find all of our

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backlog of episodes on the Event Pro show

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or any any podcast platform like Spotify or

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Apple. And we hope to see you on the next one. Thank you for joining

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us this time. Have a wonderful day. The

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Event Pro show is a production of LEMG video

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by Nick Barrett, audio and post production by Prince

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Thompson. You can learn more about us at LEMG.